Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Public transit vs car rental

We are 3 females in our 20%26#39;s travelling to Villefranche in late June, and then moving on to Saint Tropez





We plan to visit Nice, Monaco, and Cannes, using Villefranche as our base.



I am udner the impression that the bus system runs fairly well, however, I%26#39;m concerned for those nights when we will be staying out late, experiencing the night scene, and the busses stop running.







Debating on whether to rent a car for our 7-day stay in Villefranche?? Would it be easier?





Are taxis from Nice to Villefranche very expensive?





Please help!




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Whilst the general bus service tends to finish up when it gets dark, they have introduced night buses





cg06.fr/transport/lignes-tam/noctambus.pdf





Not especially frequent but as long as you play to the timetable shouldn%26#39;t be a problem, and its dirt cheap. Unlike taxis, which are the most expensive in Europe. Spend less on travel and more on champagne.





Car rental is an expensive solution for your modest travel needs, and tough on the one who can%26#39;t drink.





The trains run until around midnight and are a better solution than bus in the Cannes direction if you are short on time.




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The night buses are only Thursday Friday and Saturday nights [plus night before a public holiday]





The trains run till about 12.30 and its a 6 minute journey





Some clubs in Nice finish about 5.30 am by which time buses and trains are about to start again for the day




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Thank you both for your responses.



The night bus schedule looks like the busses stop running fairly early (10:00pm) That would be the middle of dinner time for us :-/





I do like the option of just waiting for the morning bus!





How far is the train station from Nice nighlife?



And if we WERE to drive, is it difficult to find parking?




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The night bus times for villefranche are 10pm, 11.30pm , 1am and 2.30am but only certain nights





It depends where you go - there are clubs all over Nice , though quiet a few in the Old town.





Old Town to Nice train station is about 20- 25 minute walk or you can get a tram from one of teh old town tram stops which you take to Gare Thiers tram stop -trams run longer than the trains but they space out late at night.




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oh, i was was looking at the pdf link that NiceLife provided..it only shows the 10:00pm





would you be able to post a link for the bus schedule? i tried the TAM website, but my french is so poor (i know! shame on me!) that i cannot seem to find the schedules.





What about Monaco? what%26#39;s the best way to get to/from at night?





i%26#39;m sorry for all the questions! ...and really appreciate the responses :)




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NICE - MENTON N 100 -bus starts at airport terminal 1 then shots along via carras /ferber /magnan/gambett/meyerbeer then from the Port which might be your handiest stoop if you are at clubs in the old town . You need to check that the bus stop has a label saying N100 as well as the stop name.





NICE Aéroport Terminal 1 22.00 23.30 1.00 2.30



NICE Le Port 22.15 23.45 1.15 2.45



VILLEFRANCHE Orctroi 22.21 23.51 1.21 2.51



BEAULIEU Baie des Fourmis22.25 23.55 1.25 2.55



MONACO Place d’Armes 22.39 0.09 1.39 3.09



MONACO Larvotto 22.46 0.16 1.46 3.16



ROQUEBRUNE Marché 22.58 0.28 1.58 3.28



Menton Bastion 23.08 0.38 2.08 3.38





from menton or monaco -same days of the week



MENTON - NICE N 100



MENTON Bastion 23.15 0.45 2.15 3.45



ROQUEBRUNE Carnolès 23.20 0.50 2.20 3.50



MONACO Larvotto 23.32 1.02 2.32 4.02



MONACO Place d’Armes 23.43 1.13 2.43 4.13



BEAULIEU Baie des Fourmis23.57 1.27 2.57 4.27



VILLEFRANCHE Octroi 0.01 1.31 3.01 4.31



NICE Le Port 0.06 1.36 3.06 4.36



NICE Aéroprt Terminal 1 0.31 2.01 3.31 5.01





otherwise a train from monaco -last one is ten to midnight and it takes 15 mins




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Hi, Fellow Canadians,





I don%26#39;t know why you wouldn%26#39;t rent a car.





In addition to matters of safety, consider these:





- Convenience. I hate having to drop what I%26#39;m doing to hurry to the bus station and stand around waiting for buses.





- Versatility. If the only places you%26#39;d think of going are these cities, a bus or train would do, I suppose. But there%26#39;s a vast world along the Riviera, in the Maritime Alps and beyond in Italy that bus and train passengers never see and don%26#39;t even know exist. I could name a large number of examples, but let me mention just one:





- Peillon is my favorite perched village. It%26#39;s about twenty minutes drive, and half a world, away from downtown Nice. Nice is a beautiful, busy city. Peillon is a village built a thousand years ago, give or take a few centuries, on a ledge halfway up a mountainside. There%26#39;s no rail service, and the road is too narrow for buses, but you can easily drive there in your car. The car park and hotels are at the edge of the village. After that, there are only narrow walking streets, built on different levels connected by stairs. Little shops dot the streets, but not in the heavy-duty numbers in bigger touristy places like St. Paul de Vence. Peillon is the sort of peaceful French village you came to see, except that only those in cars actually get to see it.





And there are hundreds more little places like this.





Happy travels, and let me know if I can help further!





David



capetien10@gmail.com




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Current main SNCF train timetable between Cannes - Nice Monaco - Menton - Ventimiglia





ter-sncf.com/Images/FH04-Mandelieu-Grasse-Vi…





(There are TGVs (Trains de Grande Vitesse) in addition plus a few extra international trains. However a word of warning re the TGV - these require a prior seat reservation. In the past its been a bit of a local joke, paying extra few euros to reserve a seat on an empty train, and many people just chanced it without consequence, but I noticed last week they are beefing up enforcement, turfing people off, and there is a rather large on the spot fine. Basically its extra revenue for the State railways and the railways are really suffering from the one Euro busfare competition on one side and the lowcost airlines competition on the other. Sorry for them I am not.)







Real-time departure board from Nice Ville illustrating schedules and destinations:





gares-en-mouvement.com/infostempsreel-depart…




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You wondered about parking? I%26#39;ve never found it a problem in France.





In France, parking is like in Canadian cities:





- You can park on the street, at the meters. In smaller towns, where traffic is lighter, you can often park free.





- There are pay parking lots.





- Many businesses, although not usually those in the center of cities, have private parking lots for customers.





- Most hotels have free parking for guests. In some of the swanker places, especially in the heart of the cities, the hotel may have a charge for parking.





David




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Why not car rental?





Traffic jams, pollution,very expensive compared to public transport, freedom to enjoy life viewed through a windscreen, memorable views of the bumper of the car in front, collision damage waiver (15% of french cars have scars down their bodywork - they don%26#39;t care) expensive and scarce parking, highest car accident mortality rate in Europe, %26quot;vol a portiere%26quot; -a specialty, burglary including car keys will cost you a replacement car, battling with obdurant cyclists on your inside and illegal scooters on your outside, aggressive French drivers...





I can think of a few reasons....

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